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ranskaldan
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn Kempf wrote:
Thanks for Ye Grande Chart above, ranskaldan; I was trying to keep a running total in my head.


No problem. icon_wink.gif

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thanks to Aidan for the Geek Code link; now I understand it. I don't think I'm up to posting my own code just yet, however...it might be revealing too much about myself (or, paradoxically, too little, since it doesn't reflect a lot of my interests--you can see a few of those in my profile, however).


Actually, I don't think I really get it. Oh well.

I think Z's directly responsible for creation a whole new generation of conlangers. Tsk, tsk! icon_wink.gif I myself found VV a long time ago... that was still in the tezcat Era. I remember that I was scared away by the picture of the ktuvok. icon_confused.gif As I said, it was a long time ago and I was very young.

I lost the link for a long time after that though. It was the Historical Atlas that actually started me checking the site regularly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ranskaldan wrote:
I think Z's directly responsible for creation a whole new generation of conlangers. Tsk, tsk! icon_wink.gif I myself found VV a long time ago... that was still in the tezcat Era. I remember that I was scared away by the picture of the ktuvok. icon_confused.gif As I said, it was a long time ago and I was very young.


Man, tezcat was quite a long time ago! I doubt I've actually created any conlangers; but from the mail I get, I've helped a lot of people realize they're not alone. Before the Net, this was the sort of hobby nobody else in town was interested in...

I'm very happy that Frank has assumed the mantle of Oldest Member. He's wrong about no one being within 10 years of him, though. icon_smile.gif

Oh, and the old board had at least one female poster, Aino Eamets, who I'm pretty sure was the first person to write me e-mail in Barakhinei.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ranskaldan wrote:
I think Z's directly responsible for creation a whole new generation of conlangers. Tsk, tsk! icon_wink.gif I myself found VV a long time ago... that was still in the tezcat Era. I remember that I was scared away by the picture of the ktuvok. icon_confused.gif As I said, it was a long time ago and I was very young.


I think you're right; at least, Z's site is what got me interested, or rather re-interested. I've always loved fantasy worlds, and it was an article in Dragon magazine back in around 1981, and later the Klingon Dictionary and hearing about grammars of Tolkien's Quenya (not to mention Tolkien's own works), that introduced me to the idea of conlanging. However, it wasn't until I found Virtual Verduria only about a year ago that I began to think about doing conlanging and (renewed) world creation on my own, for its own sake. (I'm still taking baby steps icon_redface.gif --my thoughts move slowly, and I don't have much time for writing and conworlding--but it's a start.)

And I certainly had no idea there were so many conlangers out there. icon_wink.gif Thanks, Mark!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corvus wrote:
Being made to feel oldish by all these rugrats icon_wink.gif Its scary to think I've been using computers longer than some of them have been alive.

Aidan, thanks for the geekcode. I've seen it around on mailing lists, but never really found out what it was. Because I'm slighlty geekish I'll throw my code up.

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GIT d+@ s:- a- C++>++++ UL P L+ E-- W++ N o K? w--- O- M V? PS- @ PE Y-- PGP-- t-- 5++ X- R+ tv b+++ DI++ D+ G e+ h-- r* z?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------


Referencing the top statement of yours, if you were using computers at 13, in '87, and besides are C++ and DI++ I think you qualify as more than slightly geekish icon_wink.gif.

Let's hear it for the w---'s! Though I can't get with you on the t--, 5++ but here's to diversity. icon_razz.gif And r* ? Can I see your card icon_wink.gif?


Glenn Kempf wrote:

I don't think I'm up to posting my own code just yet, however...it might be revealing too much about myself (or, paradoxically, too little, since it doesn't reflect a lot of my interests


I hear ya, I just have it on hand, I'm not really the target either. But it's entertaining.

ranskaldan wrote:
Actually, I don't think I really get it. Oh well.


You don't get Glenn's reluctance or you don't get the Geek Code? I assume the latter. It's really quite simple, each letter is a trait followed by some set of symbols indicating where you stand on that trait.

On mine, for example:

GS means Geek of Sciences
d- means fairly casual dresser, jeans and a t-shirt
a-->? means 20-24 years old, aspiring to ageless icon_wink.gif
U(Darwin/B) means my normal Unix flavor is BSD(Darwin) but have particular + or - to Unix

It's all explained at http://www.geekcode.com/geek.html , with entertaining descriptions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:37 am    Post subject: That's me Reply with quote

Thinking back in time I realize that I also found VV at tezcat (actually one of my Finnish general linguistics books refer to Mark's introductions on how to subscribe some linguist lists to tezcat, but that book I bought a few year ago). I remember that I specifically searched sites about language making. Oh, you are making me nostalgic. Those strange new alphabets and funny sounds. Actually conlanging helped me a lot with my later studies (eg. French which I resently found I could understand).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right, all right...after looking the whole thing over and thinking it through, I decided to put my Geek Code up:

---BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK---
Version: 3.12
GH d-(+) s:-- a31>? C++ U? P L E? W+ N- o? K- w(+) O? M+(college) V? PS+@ PE@ Y+@ PGP? t(+@) 5+(++) X(+(when it started)) R tv- b+++ DI+(++) D-- G e+++ h!(temporary) r++ x?
---END GEEK CODE BLOCK---

I tried to pick the closest possible standard category in each case (in reality, a couple of them would be followed by "It's a long story..."), and reflect the range involved.

As you can see, the problem is that I'm out of the loop on most of the computer categories, sometimes more than I'd like ("?" here usually means "never used", rather than "never heard of"), and near the middle on most of the others--and a lot of my real interests, as I said, are not displayed (I'm geek all right, just not a Geek Code-targeted geek icon_wink.gif ).

Still, as you said, it's fun--and now I've got it for future reference. icon_smile.gif

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aidan wrote:

Referencing the top statement of yours, if you were using computers at 13, in '87, and besides are C++ and DI++ I think you qualify as more than slightly geekish icon_wink.gif.

Let's hear it for the w---'s! Though I can't get with you on the t--, 5++ but here's to diversity. icon_razz.gif And r* ? Can I see your card icon_wink.gif?


First computer I used was a Vic20, back in '84 or '85 at the grand old age of 10 or 11. And now I work as a computer techie for a bunch of schools. Always been more into the hardware side than the software.

And yes, Bill Gates needs to die. Painfully.

t--? Of course. The technobabble is mindless drivel (and then promptly forgotten), the whole 'Wouldn't it be nice if we all were nice' is wishful thinking at its best and continuity might as well not exist. 5++ is at least realistic in that regard. But then I am a cynic. icon_wink.gif

r* probably needs clarification. Probably need to set up an Australian branch, or clarify it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ccaccus wrote:
Just curious, but what college do you go to? My cousin once removed or something goes to Iowa University


Cornell. But not the Cornell most of you are probably thinking of. This is Cornell College in Mt. Vernon, IA. It's not that far from Iowa City, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penelope wrote:
Ccaccus wrote:
Just curious, but what college do you go to? My cousin once removed or something goes to Iowa University


Cornell. But not the Cornell most of you are probably thinking of. This is Cornell College in Mt. Vernon, IA. It's not that far from Iowa City, though.


Cornell College? Really? I had a friend--a classmate on the ACM/GLCA Russian foreign-language program in Krasnodar, back in 1991--who was an International Studies major at Cornell College; she was class of '93, though, so she'd be long gone. I remember we had some discussions on the virtues of block versus semester systems.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corvus wrote:


r* probably needs clarification. Probably need to set up an Australian branch, or clarify it.


There definitely needs to be an Australian PS. Currently I'm registered as !PS, despite the fact that I'm extremely political.
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